Sunday, May 4, 2014

Week 4/21: Please blog on some question you may have with your essay for the course. Also, please answer some Quintilian questions from DavidR's blog in his blog.

David summary of Quintillian focused heavily on goodness. Clearly goodness back then is not synonymous with goodness today.  David notes that Quintilian “believes that audiences will believe virtuous people more readily and more fully than others, particularly when there is great uncertainty re: a topic or when opinions are divided.” I find this to be true. Credibility is a hug factor in believability – credibility can be divided between expert knowledge and unbiased. Being unbiased is basically being good – in so much as that you let the facts speak for themselves and you aren’t driving a personally profitable agenda.

One of David’s questions asked “Do you believe that someone who uses language eloquently and effectively (eloquentia perfecta) is a good person?” He basically goes on to provide an excellent example in his second question citing Hitler.


I also think that using language eloquently and effectively is completely uncoupled from goodness. This directly relates to Angela’s discussion of Cicero’s De Oratore – where he asks us to separate the content from the style. This is very interesting to me for a variety of reasons. In class I remember we mentioned content <the words> and how they can be visually manipulated via cascading style sheets for websites, or marked up with XML for electronic publishing. This also bleeds into the topic on my final paper on English Second Language authors. They are undoubtedly content matter experts – but how they style language is often less than optimal for native speakers. So are ESL authors less good? They are certainly less skilled at persuading in English – but this does not correlate at all with them conducting inferior science. So does Quintilian’s goodness theory apply in this context?  I personally believe the theory is situationally relevant to that time and place – but is not timeless or universally applicable.

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